added a roundstart buttons aganist leo and a couple images from dustloop.

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## Note
Leo goes to stance by holding 5H.
Leo goes to stance by holding 5H.
While in "stance" **can't block**, but can use a parry.
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[Punish_Eisen_Sturm_H_cS_midscreen_BnB.mp4](src/Specials/Eisen_Sturm/Punish_Eisen_Sturm_H_cS_midscreen_BnB.mp4)
## Kaltes Gestöber Erst
aka. Rekka
Combinations available:
236S = Erst
236H = Zweit
214S = Dritt
| combo | on block | on IB | imgs |
|---------------------|----------|-------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
| 236S | -1 | -3 | ![210px-GGXRD_Leo_Erst.png](src/img/210px-GGXRD_Leo_Erst.png) |
| 236S > 236H | -3 | -5 | ![148px-GGXRD_Leo_Zweit.png](src/img/148px-GGXRD_Leo_Zweit.png) |
| 236S > 236H > 214S | -7 | -11 | ![210px-GGXRD_Leo_Dritt.png](src/img/210px-GGXRD_Leo_Dritt.png) |
I think that crouch `IBing "Erst" >~ 4SH > 4SH > 1FD` allows to OS throw/Dead Angle Zweit, and block the followup from single rekka
`4SH` as Throw OS
## Kaltes Gestöber Zweit
Leo benefit is nothing meaningful unless RRC or counterhit.
It's plus.
# Practice

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ty 🙏 (still got to read breakfast and stale thingie distracted me)
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[simple_ub_setup_kyouse.mp4](src/simple_ub_setup_kyouse.mp4)
[simple_ub_setup_kyouse.mp4](src/simple_ub_setup_kyouse.mp4)
## Roundstart quick notes
### Elphelt Buttons notes:
#### Elphelt's f.S
Doesn't punish backdash, but it's still a win since we get free space for our neutral game.
##### Wins
- 6P, only **wins** if Elphelt uses a followup (`f.S > 5H` or `f.S > Bridal`).
- 2K wins but non-counterhit, can't get anything from it.
- Everything except the listed under.
##### Trades
- 5K
##### Loses
- 2S
- DPs
#### Elphelt's 2D
Used to cover instances that Elp f.S doesn't win.
##### Relevant Wins
- 5K, meanwhile Elp f.S trades.
- Allows punishing Leo's 2K unlike with Elp f.S
- Whiffs against Leo's S DP.
- 1/2 Frames delayed 2D whiffs against Leo's H DP, otherwise clashes.
##### Trades
##### Loses
- f.S (2D loses and get poked, Leo can only follow it up by 214S.)
- 2D (loses to Elp f.S)
##### Irrelevant whiffs/clashes
> Whiff/clashes and doesn't allow for punish or anything relevant.
- 6P (whiffs, loses to Elp f.S)
- 2H (clash, loses to Elp f.S)
- H DP if Elp 2D isn't delayed for 1-2 frames (clash).
- 2S (clash, loses to Elp f.S)
- 2D (whiffs, still can be blocked, loses to Elp f.S)
### Leo's 6P
Something like `f.S > Bridal` or `f.S > 5H` works.
2D whiffs.
### Leo's 6K
Loses to f.S and 2D, didn't bother about anything else.
### Leo's 5K
f.S/2S trades
5H loses.
6H hits too late, doesn't get a CH, cancel into whatever **but not bridal**.
6P hits too late, can be blocked.
2D wins.
#### Favs?
delayed 2k wins, aka ~ 2k>f.S>etc
delayed 2d wins, aka ~ 2D > bridal / shotgun / berry
### Leo's f.S
f.S wins.
2D loses and get poked, Leo can only follow it up by 214S.
5P loses.
5H loses.
6H loses.
on IB can do 5H, but if Leo does `f.S > 5H` ur fucked.
6P "hits" as long doesn't go into stance, also hits if Leo does `f.S > 5H`.
### Leo's 2H
6H Clashes, if Leo delays the 2H you get murdered, so discard this option.
2H loses.
f.S wins/gets CH.
2D clashes.
**1 frame delayed Elp f.S murders you.**
**3-4 frame delayed Elp f.S scores a CH.**
### Leo's delayed 2H
Reminder, Elp 6H murders you. Don't.
### Leo's 2K
2D gets a CH, slightly delayed (1/2 frames) 2D also gets a CH, further delay will whiff, still safe tho.
f.S gets hit, no CH, can't get anything out of it due to distance. I dont like the idea of pulling shotgun against leo in neutral anyway.
### Leo's 2S
2D clashes.
5K clashes.
f.S wins with a CH.
### Leo's 6H
f.S/2S gets CH.
Delayed 2D gets CH.
6H get CH.
6P gets CH.
2H gets CH.
substantially delayed 5K gets CH.
### Leo's 2D
f.S/2S wins.
2K/5K/2P/5P/2D/6H/5H/Bridal loses.
### Leo's S DP
fS/5H/Bridal loses.
2S Trades.
6H Trades.
**2D Whiffs.**
Bridal also whiffs (does it even matter??).
### Leo's H DP
2S/f.S/5H/6H/Bridal loses.
2D clashes.
**1/2 frames delayed 2D wiffs.**
### Leo's Erst
Loses to everything except 6H/6P/Bridal?.
### Leo's Zweit
Loses to everything except 6H?/6P/Bridal?
### TK Siegesparade
f.S/5H/6H/6P wins
Other might whiff.
### Backdash
Delayed 5H hits bd.
6H hits bd.
Bridal hits bd.

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"My" Elphelt notes
## Pending
https://discord.com/channels/121387821977042945/121387821977042945/757209033173106718